Meet the Hidden Health Hero You Need for Optimum Health

In this lively podcast, Dr. Rodney and Karen discuss fascinating details of the hidden health hero your body needs. If you don't eat enough of the right sourced foods you might need to take a supplement. Your body will thank you especially as you get older.

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[00:42] Karen: Welcome to Stance for Health. We're so excited to talk to you today about a hidden health hero.

[00:51] Dr. Rodney: Well, hidden health hero, I mean, I immediately think of the MCU, but that's a whole different set of acronyms.

[00:58] Karen: I almost start with the melody and...

[01:01] Dr. Rodney: The fanfare and the drums and oh, man, get me started. But what we want to talk about, in essence, is the health hero. It's a letter. It's a vitamin.

[01:13] Karen: Okay.

[01:14] Dr. Rodney: And so we start thinking about vitamins, and immediately you start going down the Alphabet, right? You start thinking, well, A, B, maybe think of B vitamins. Yeah. What about, you know, C?

[01:25] Vitamin C. And then right after C is D, vitamin D. And then of course there's vitamin D.

[01:31] And I'm not sure if there is an okay, but maybe.

[01:34] Karen: Okay.

[01:35] Dr. Rodney: All right, so it sounds like every time that I say one, you're actually giving us a hint. Okay, so that's vitamin K. Vitamin K.

[01:46] Karen: And the most important one for us is K2.

[01:50] And so it has a great impact in overall health and it was discovered a long time ago. What is your knowledge of K that we're finding?

[02:04] Dr. Rodney: Well, earliest memory of vitamin K was probably about 1975 or somewhere in that timeframe.

[02:13] Karen: You're old.

[02:14] Dr. Rodney: I know, but I was, I was younger then.

[02:20] And the funny thing was that know my sister was having. Was having nosebleeds.

[02:26] And so,

[02:28] you know, my mom, knowing what she knows, she's like, well, let me just go to Dr. Puentes, shout out to the Puentes family. He's a medical doctor, so he'll know stuff about this.

[02:36] And he's progressive. And so the bottom line was that she needed to supplement with vitamin K. And what's interesting is the pill then doesn't look much different than the pill that we take now.

[02:49] Karen: Itty bitty in recent research, though, goes far beyond that blood coagulation use.

[02:58] Dr. Rodney: That is number one on the list of the things of its functions. And then, you know, obviously, then as some of the highlights of the bullet points are maintaining strong bones and teeth.

[03:08] That would make sense.

[03:10] Supporting the cardiovascular system, protecting the brain and other cells against free radical oxidation and blood sugar balance. But then we can go into more detail about it, which is huge.

[03:23] Each of those things has its own thing we could talk about for an hour.

[03:27] Karen: Absolutely. I love it. So let's talk a little bit about. You mentioned earlier the arterial flexibility and cardiovascular health.

[03:36] Dr. Rodney: What does that mean when you think of flexibility? I want you also to think about participation in the heartbeat itself.

[03:45] But not only that, but the ability of the whole blood vessel to respond to the muscle within it in the larger blood vessel. Right. How compliant is that larger blood vessel?

[03:59] To change blood pressure, you really need a compliant blood vessel. And the analogy I like to use is what would happen if you.

[04:12] A brand new rubber hose versus one you leave out in the sun for too long and you don't store it properly. You just leave it out in the sun and pretty soon it becomes almost dry and brittle.

[04:22] That's the effect of vitamin K, is to keep it more like new.

[04:27] Karen: So basically, if you think about calcium in the blood, it's basically kind of heavy, isn't it? Is that a fair thing to say?

[04:37] Dr. Rodney: Calcium in the blood? Yeah, I suppose it would add weight to it. You know, you think of the solid versus the solvent. Right.

[04:46] Karen: And so what does is it activates a protein that's actually called osteocalcin and that helps prevent the calcium buildup in the arteries. That sounds really important.

[04:58] Dr. Rodney: Absolutely. And so one might actually think of the, you know, calcium on the chalkboard. If you remember chalkboards.

[05:12] Karen: Oh, yeah.

[05:13] Dr. Rodney: If anybody out there remember. Now I'm really giving my age up.

[05:16] Karen: But you mean that black thing and then a white stick?

[05:18] Dr. Rodney: Yeah, you know, like powder everywhere. And then there's the old metaphor of how your nerves get set on edge by nails, your fingernails on a chalkboard. That.

[05:29] Karen: Yeah.

[05:30] Dr. Rodney: Sound. But aside from that, I'm talking about. No, I'm talking about more of like when you think of calcium, what's the first thing you think of?

[05:42] Karen: Taki Big supplement. Vitamin.

[05:47] Dr. Rodney: No, I mean like source of calcium.

[05:51] Karen: Oh, like shells. Like. I don't know.

[05:54] Dr. Rodney: What about milk?

[05:55] Karen: Oh, yes.

[05:56] Dr. Rodney: Okay. So that's actually a decent way to contain calcium. Just like you would say, green leafy vegetables. So instead of being the cow. I mean, instead of eating it, drinking it from the cow, which isn't like the worst way to get it because we'll actually talk about that in the future.

[06:19] I just want you to think of calcium as being something bound properly.

[06:26] In other words, it's something that you can consume and your body will know what to do with it versus the chalkboard. Chalk made of calcium carbonate. That's not usable. That's what a plant does with it.

[06:40] Karen: So that is one thing we're talking about your arteries and your cardiovascular health. And the second one is mitochondrial function.

[06:50] Dr. Rodney: Isn't that something?

[06:52] Karen: Now we've talked about mitochondria and I'll put a link in the show notes because that's where you get your energy. But this particularly is the mitochondria in the heart.

[07:01] Dr. Rodney: It's almost like when you think of what happens, let's say in a car collision and a mild traumatic brain injury. It's. It's actually the calcium gated ion channels that are affected most by trauma.

[07:21] And then that actually has an effect on the cell because it polarizes the cell and it hyperstimulates it and it has a tough time shutting down.

[07:31] So K actually helps to mediate the use of calcium in the cell.

[07:37] Karen: I love that.

[07:38] Dr. Rodney: Which totally makes sense as to how it could actually help with mitochondrial function.

[07:43] Karen: We know that that mitochondria is starving for ATP. Tell us a little bit more about what's that ATP business.

[07:50] Dr. Rodney: I know it stands for adenosine triphosphate and then there's adenosine diphosphate. But the goal is to get it to ATP so that you can release energy in the form of adp.

[08:04] So that's when it powers up and you've used the Krebs cycle and the citric acid cycle. So that's the release, that's what's happening inside the mitochondria.

[08:16] Karen: And I am so impressed that this little bitty bitty supplement, it's the easiest to swallow. I can actually swallow it without water anyway.

[08:24] Dr. Rodney: And it doesn't taste bad.

[08:26] Karen: There's no taste. So I want to share about some, some basically metabolic. I want to share about some metabolic health markers. A detailed study, because you know how much I love to research.

[08:38] And when I find a large number of participants, in this case it was 36,629.

[08:46] Dr. Rodney: Whoa. That's.

[08:47] Karen: But most importantly, over 12 years.

[08:52] And that really, really impresses me because they monitored their K2 intake.

[08:57] For the people that had higher K2, they had 29% lower risk of developing peripheral artery disease. So we're going back to the arteries.

[09:11] They noticed 44% reduction of type 2 diabetes and 41% reduction in high blood pressure.

[09:24] So I'm telling you, this is a gold mine.

[09:28] Dr. Rodney: It is.

[09:30] Karen: So our fourth one of the benefits is bone health. And that's what really piques my interest, because as particularly women get older, there's a greater incidence of osteoporosis, but before that shows up is osteopenia.

[09:47] So tell me more about what happens.

[09:51] Once again, we're talking to the calcium and the bones.

[09:54] Dr. Rodney: With K2, when they think of bones, they think of calcium because it's such. And then, of course, milk to go along with it. Such. Such successful marketing.

[10:04] Karen: Oh, my goodness.

[10:06] Dr. Rodney: Right.

[10:06] Karen: Yes. It does the body good.

[10:07] Dr. Rodney: Yep. And another way of saying that is propaganda. There isn't a lot of money in the magnesium industry.

[10:16] However, there is a lot of money in the magnesium industry when you consider all of the ramifications of magnesium, in that it's actually more efficient as a contributor to bone health and bone strength and the makeup of bone than calcium is not to say that you don't need calcium,

[10:36] it's just that magnesium is way more important than bone health than we ever realized.

[10:41] Karen: Well, and I think what I'm hearing you say is you need calcium, but you can get that from your food and the K2 tells it where to go. You don't necessarily need to increase with the calcium supplement.

[10:54] Dr. Rodney: No. Because your body's so efficient at recirculating calcium.

[10:58] Karen: And so what are the ramifications if you're not doing K2 and you are taking the calcium supplements?

[11:04] Dr. Rodney: What can happen if you're not? Then all of a sudden you've got calcium going in all the places that we mentioned that you don't want it to go into the tunica media.

[11:15] Hardening that artery. That's what we used to call it, hardening of the arteries.

[11:19] Karen: How about kidney stones?

[11:20] Dr. Rodney: Absolutely. Calcium, let's say, even in calcium deposits in previous injury sites.

[11:28] Karen: Yes.

[11:28] Dr. Rodney: Right. And sometimes it's really. It's hard. Harder to overcome injuries when you have those. Those trigger points.

[11:36] Karen: But that is so hard, particularly for women that are over 50 and they have been given that bone density test and it shows osteopenia. Very few of the health leaders are saying, increase K2, they're saying, increase calcium.

[11:54] And so that's what we're saying here. Basically, the K2 is going to help you with that. And by the way, like you said, add the magnesium.

[12:02] Dr. Rodney: If you are supplementing with calcium, by all means, you definitely need to look at vitamin K. The other thing that I failed to mention was the effect on brain health is that with calcium,

[12:16] when you have excess Calcium, you actually have an issue too because all of a sudden if you want to look at the players in brain damage when it comes to over excitation of the, of the brain cell known as the neuron, if we're talking about the neuron, the base cell,

[12:36] then what actually happens is more or less magnesium is,

[12:43] takes the place of like,

[12:46] for lack of a better word, let's say it's almost like armor and excess calcium is like the bullet in the gun. And and then all of a sudden now we have to go into glutamate to some extent.

[12:58] Basically inorganic glutamate that's also found in msg, that's really the gun. And excess calcium is the bullets.

[13:08] So that's where you really want Cal vitamin K to be able to tell those bullets where to go.

[13:15] Karen: I really am.

[13:17] Dr. Rodney: So.

[13:20] Karen: It'S hard to find the word. I'm just so impressed with this information and how few people know about it, which is why we are so passionate about it.

[13:30] Dr. Rodney: Yes.

[13:30] Karen: And you basically had to get started with this because this is a non negotiable for our longevity, for our rejuvenation lifestyle. If you're going to live a long time without disability, you want to increase your magnesium.

[13:47] And you've already said that we also need to eliminate vegetable oils because they're damaging your arteries.

[13:59] Dr. Rodney: Isn't that funny? And there are a lot of folks out there that still think vegetable oils are a good thing because vegetable precedes.

[14:08] Karen: It, but they're not their seed oils. And I'm going to put the link to that in the show notes as well. You can't convince me to eat them. Again, you can't change my mind because the research is just so compelling and yet we go back to the same thing and passion that I have around it because my mom was so health conscious and yet believed that propaganda.

[14:34] And so we grew up with the vegetable seed seed oils and margarine. And so basically instead get this, go back to how my daddy was raised with cook with butter or and fry things in tallow or you can use avocado oil.

[14:56] Okay, stop eating processed foods and eat the following.

[15:04] So you're going to eat a lot of good foods, but they need to be well sourced.

[15:10] Dr. Rodney: If the food that we were talking about before, if it's something you can pull out of the ground and put it in your refrigerator, that's ideal, right out of your own garden, that would be ideal.

[15:22] Something that's grain that was recently picked or an animal that was harvested that ate the same thing. That ate something on the range. We call it range fed chickens. We call it basically grass fed beef.

[15:38] Right. And if you're into pork, the same thing. Because, you know, let's face it, if the, if those animals are eating the food that makes us sick, it probably made them sick.

[15:47] So we eat their meat, then we're going to get sick too because they have the results of the lectins. And so is that what you were getting at?

[15:57] Karen: Absolutely, because you can eat egg yolks, you're going to get some K2 from that. But it's like you said, they need to be from pasture raised chickens and the beef and that the meat that you're eating needs to be grass fed.

[16:14] And there's some really good cheeses.

[16:17] Dr. Rodney: There are. Goodness.

[16:20] We don't want to go into a ton of detail right now, but if it's a particular kind of proteins, could we actually say that there are different types of cows that produce the kind of milk that has the right kind of.

[16:31] Yeah, that has the right.

[16:32] Karen: That's why we use Kerrygold, because it's from the right kind of cows and.

[16:37] Dr. Rodney: We recognize that culture is so important here. And some of you that are listening to this, you go, I don't want to give up the this or the that because.

[16:47] Right, because. Oh, that's grandma's recipe.

[16:51] Karen: Well, you need to balance out Your D and K2 and that's the only way that you're going to.

[16:59] Dr. Rodney: So you're, you're talking about getting into a ratio.

[17:03] Karen: Now the other thing is if you can't get those foods, you need to have a take a high quality K2 supplement. And we do have those available if you want us to tell you about that.

[17:13] Dr. Rodney: The story I heard about eating habits and cultural habits, it reminded me of a man that, that asked, hey,

[17:25] when you're cooking a roast, why do you cut the end of it off?

[17:29] And she said, well, I don't know, let me ask my mom. And so, you know, she asked mom and mom said, well, it's, it's because the pan was, was too small to fit the roast.

[17:44] And so that you can see that that was just one generation. But what if that was times three or four generations? And if you have a particular habit of eating a particular kind of food, I would just ask you to consider why we've done a deep dive into it and we want you to benefit from it.

[18:05] And the reason why we want you to benefit from it is so that you can take your own personal stance for health.

[18:14] Thanks for listening.

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