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In this podcast Dr. Rodney and Karen talk about the powerhouse of the cell and how to activate it.

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Dr. Rodney:

[00:49] : Hi, and welcome to the Stance for Health podcast.

[00:52] Seated with me as usual is Karen Joanne, Sebastian Wirth - Hope lady. We're kind of taking a trip back to elementary school to science class.

[01:07] One of the most intriguing parts of the body at the cellular level is the subject of the mitochondria, what it does and the theories around it. When you think of science class, don't close your ears and say, I don't want to go back to science class.

[01:24] I took enough science when I was in school. I got past it and that's it. I don't want to do any more science. We want to make it the part that you're hearing today.

[01:33] It's also something that's happening inside your body at such a level.

[01:39] That your body's fearfully and wonderfully is an understatement.

Karen:

[01:46] : Absolutely. I remember with one of our younger health partners, we were introducing the use of the red light laser and we talked about it is helping your mitochondria. And they go, "Oh, yes, the powerhouse of the cell."

Dr. Rodney:

[02:06] They had remembered that from their biology class. And that's in that organelle. There's the mitochondria.

[02:13] That is basically so critical and so important in so many ways.

[02:20] : So we're talking about your organism being the human body and that human body having systems and. Or organ systems. Let's say cardiovascular. You'd say, what's in the cardiovascular system?

[02:35] : The heart and the blood vessels. Right. And the nervous system. You have the brain and spinal cord, and then you have the nervous system outside that. So that's what we're talking about.

[02:44] Well, then in your guts. What are your guts? Your guts are your organs, your internal organs. When you think of internal organs, what do you think of? But name some.

Karen:

[02:55] : Your stomach, your liver, your spleen.

Dr. Rodney:

[02:57] : Okay, all right. And let's say in your gut, from your mouth all the way down to your anus. When I think of the cell, it's like a little miniature body, really.

[03:11] And each of these cells makes up different types of organs or tissues.

[03:19] : So every cell in your body has within it the mitochondria that sustains life as you know it. Every cell, no matter what its function.

[03:32] : There is perhaps one exception.

[03:36] : And that's in essence red blood cells.

[03:40] : It's basically like a skeleton crew. Its primary function, it's so differentiated, it doesn't have a nucleus.

[03:47] : Got it. All right, thank you for that clarification. And basically, it's responsible for converting the food into a usable form of energy known as ATP.

[03:58] : That stands for adenosine triphosphate. What I love about thinking of the cells as being little miniature bodies is also organelles or little small organs is that in much the same way, you're not necessarily just feeding your body, you're really feeding your bacteria.

[04:19] If mitochondria have their own DNA, right.

[04:24] And they have their own a dual cell structure, in other words, a lipid bilayer, then they're almost their own little miniature organism within the organism.

[04:38] : Yeah. So let's just say for our purposes today, that in a way, mitochondria are somewhat like the bacteria in your gut. They're. They're symbiotic. What we. We don't really know how they do what they do, they just do it.

Karen:

[04:56] : Exactly. And what we are beginning to see as we look at the body as a whole, especially as. As Doc has been studying more about functional medicine, is that there are a lot of things going on in your body if your mitochondria is not producing that energy properly.

Dr. Rodney:

[05:20] : Yeah. So fast forward, spoiler alert.

[05:23] If you're feeding your body well, you're feeding your bacteria well. If you're feeding your body well, you're feeding your cells well, you're also feeding your mitochondria well.

[05:33] : Exactly. And they're going to do what they were supposed to do, which is produce about 90% of the energy your body requires to sustain life.

[05:43] : Oh, yeah. And let. So for our purpose, let's just say that that is oxidative phosphorylation, that style of reaction in your body, also known as powering the Krebs cycle. This is in essence breaking off ATP to form ADP, which produces energy.

[06:00] In other words, it's like a little spring that's going ATP, ADP, ATP, ADP. And it's like this little spring boing. And it. And it makes energy when that happens.

Karen:

[06:11] : And so if I'm feeling really tired, it's because my cells are tired.

Dr. Rodney:

[06:23] :  Your mitochondria are tired.

[06:28] : So just like what we talked about earlier, that they have their own DNA, the copying process of DNA actually gets tired and you start to lose some of that acuity, that accuracy.

[06:43] You start getting defects and things.

[06:45] : And part of it is that life is stressful. We put our bodies through a lot and so the cells themselves need to repair. But if, if that mitochondria isn't working right, it's not going to happen, is it?

[07:00] : So in essence, we're really talking about the importance of feeding yourself well. Yes. And I love what Dr. Wahls says about that. Is it is your body - feed it well -  Whole foods.

Karen:

[07:12] That's right. Yeah. She's the one that challenges to get nine cups of veggies of in all colors.

[07:18] : And we are doing our best to do that. It is a challenge, but not impossible.

Dr. Rodney:

[07:22] : So in other words, we're creating an environment in our bodies for not just bacteria in our guts, but also the mitochondria inside our cells. Little powerhouse, you know, perhaps bacteria, maybe they are bacteria.

[07:40] I don't know. That's the theory anyway, so we'll, we'll go with that for our purposes.

[07:45] : So the other thought that we had a little bit ago, you mentioned how we get tired is what if we, this time of year, even in Texas, we, the weather is cooler and one of the, the byproducts of this reaction that I was mentioning earlier of phosphorylation, oxidative phosphorylation is reactive oxygen species.

[08:09] So let's just say that that's exhaust.

[08:11] So getting back to this time of year statement about exhaust is you can actually see it.

[08:17] So one of the ways you can tell a car is on or off at this time of year is whether or not there's exhaust coming out of the tail. Unless it's an electric car.

Karen:

[08:27] : Yes. And so what, what we're really talking about is that many times when our bodies are having problems, we may be looking at the wrong source. We may go in and say, oh, let's fix the spark plug or let's do that.

[08:45] What if it just simply ran out of gas?

Dr. Rodney:

[08:48] : Oh, that's so good.

[08:51] So again, this is kind of a spoiler alert fast forward thing is what if we looked at the body that way and, and first thought, what if it's the fuel we're putting in our body or not putting in our body.

[09:08] In other words, it's that like let's say octane instead of putting 85.

[09:16] We have a Car that performs at best at 92 octane. So instead of putting that in, we put in 85.

[09:26] How is that car gonna run?

[09:28] Worse yet? What if we put just something that burns in there? Let's just say we put alcohol in there, which is, in essence what we're really saying. That's what you're doing with the type of food scenario that we're talking about.

[09:44] : Yeah. And by the way, when your body is out acting at its optimal, it produces your own weight in ATP every day.

Karen:

[09:58] : That's unbelievable.

Dr. Rodney:

[09:59] : It is.

[10:00] : Each of those cells are just working so hard to get that energy level up.

[10:05] : So how many buckets of ATP are you producing every single day? That's the question. So we have to fuel that reaction.

[10:12] And so the best fuel for that is. You guessed it. We've talked about it before.

[10:18] We can actually reference different.

[10:22] Different. Other podcasts, but like you said, it's. It's whole foods.

[10:28] So it got me to thinking about how this could be considered either the source of all disease or the answer to almost any and all diseases at some level.

Karen:

[10:44] : Let's use the positive. Yeah, let's use the positive. Because I have to say, I became fascinated with mitochondria because of what the laser does. We have a laser that will actually reach the mitochondria and power up the ability of that mitochondria to produce the energy you need.

Dr. Rodney:

[11:14] And absorb the ATP and. And do all of that. And that's so, that's what's so fascinating, because in the different studies that we do to research PubMed or other medical journals, there was one recently about the benefits of the laser for someone that had Lou Gehrig's or als.

[11:39] And it was just fascinating because it just said the published studies are very comprehensive because it restores the regulatory process at all levels. So I'm thinking, okay, you shine the laser that penetrates to that cell, and that cell begins to regulate itself and correct itself.

Karen:

[12:02] That's exciting.

Dr. Rodney:

[12:04] : So, yes, And I think what you're referring to when you say that light shines on your body and it helps to convert a ADP back to ATP.

[12:19] : So in other words, the photons, the positive particles, are actually a breath away, Literally almost a breath away, literally.

[12:32] When it binds with ADP, from becoming ATP, how much laser would you want to put on your body? How and how frequently would you want to do it? I mean, you can go overboard with this, I suppose, but not.

Karen:

[12:45] : It's very hard to overboard. The research is showing it's very hard to Especially with the one that we have, because it doesn't generate heat and it's in the right wavelength.

Dr. Rodney:

[13:00] : So this is what you're talking about with low level photobiomodulation, cold laser therapy. What you're saying is that this is a supplement to the food that you're eating?

[13:12] : In a way, absolutely.

[13:14] : Yeah.

[13:14] : It allows your body to, to use the ATP to stimulate the ATP synthesis and energy metabolism, but also reduce oxidative stress and inflammation.

[13:28] : So in other words, when, let's say that another cell sees one cell, sees another cell with the exhaust working, it goes, that one's alive. We don't have to encourage it to do apoptosis or we can leave that.

[13:44] : One alone because that's part of what the mitochondria does as well. It does elegant depth of a cell. When it's time for it to go, it says, okay, you can go.

[13:54] : Yeah. Just instead of hooking it up to life support.

[13:58] : Yes.

[13:58] : Which in essence is kind of what happens with cancer.

[14:01] : Yes.

[14:02] : Cancer sets up its own little ICU.

[14:06] : Yes. And cranks out cells and tumors.

[14:08] : Then it starts to produce its own other ICUs. And so, and so that's, that's the haywire product. And it's very similar with degenerative processes in the brain.

[14:19] : And that is why we are excited. If you are interested in learning more about the laser, we are delighted to share more with you because it can also. It has FDA approvals specifically for pain, but it also reduces muscle fatigue and increases muscle performance.

[14:37] Thinking in terms of mitochondria, I can see how the laser can do that. That's why I'm so excited about mitochondria and the connection to the laser document.

[14:47] : We point the laser at the body.

[14:49] It's, it's affecting every cell, it's affecting every tissue, but the. Some of the most bioactive tissues in the body.

[15:00] Only 5% of the body's weight or less, but 20% of, of its use is our CPU. Our brain and spinal cord. Yes. Right.

[15:10] : Yes.

[15:10] : So then. And then, of course, cardiac tissue is even more, more reactive or, or requires the most energy.

[15:19] : Yes.

[15:20] : So I guess if we're going to sum this up, this, this wasn't really designed to be a, a podcast about laser. And yet we're talking about mitochondria. And it's hard for us to talk about mitochondria without talking about fuel for it.

[15:40] Photobiomodulation, also known as cold laser therapy, is becoming a greater supplement to help mitochondria do what they do best. And that's to help your body heal.

[15:54] : Because that's what we always want to end on is what are some things that you can do to improve your mitochondria. You've already talked about the food.

[16:04] : The response for me is we have two lasers in the office presently and we want to get a third.

[16:13] If you're in Texas there, there may not be a practitioner that has a laser in their office. But if there is this, this would be a low-cost way for you to get over some of your degenerative disease issues.

[16:31]. And so that's part of what is then in the very next breath is what's the disconnect and what can we do about it?

[16:42] : Well, one of the things I think too that we have seen the connection is as a chiropractor, you are releasing the nervous system to communicate better with the different cells. And that also helps the mitochondria.

[17:00] : It does, absolutely does it. It helps in that copying process that we referred to earlier and in essence the business end of the copying process. So that's what the laser helps with.

[17:16] That's what chiropractic helps with. That's what all the other things that we've talked about before help with. You know, when you stress your body, it produces more ATP.

[17:29] The next time that this cell comes around, not only are we going to make a better copy, but we're also going to get more ATP and inflammation.

[17:36] : If it takes care of inflammation, that's going to let everything calm down and then the body is no longer in crisis. I think that so many people are not realizing that their body is in a constant crisis simply by the oils that they're eating and that ratio of the Omega 3 to 6.

[17:55] We've talked about that in other podcasts as well. All of these things, lack of movement when you begin to, to just sit and veg with head forward posture, all of these things all tie together.

[18:10] But I love the simplicity of going.

[18:13] : Back to the very core which is the mitochondria.

[18:17] So in essence, what we're really saying is when we're diagnosing you with a disease, we really want to think first of what's inhibiting your mitochondria. Stimulate them and feed them.

[18:31] Feed them. That's what it comes down to. That's what some of the research is out there. Some of the greatest minds that are out there that can express this.

[18:42] Well, that they're saying, get the photons in your body. Get the laser on your body. Get the good food in your body. Put it in your body.

[18:51] : Move, keep moving.

[18:52] : Keep moving and you will keep improving. And the more you move, the more you feed yourself well, the more you get photons in your body, the more hopeful you feel. Wouldn't you say that's true?

[19:03] : I would say it's 100% true.

[19:05] : Anything else to add as we, as we begin to wrap this up?

[19:09] : This is exciting because it gives, like you said earlier, it gives hope, especially if you're feeling so tired.

[19:18] Go back to some basics for the whole body. Don't just dull pain.

[19:24] Don't just grab for the quickest thing you can get. We can help you to get your body in alignment and your health in the right place.

[19:36] : I've had so much fun talking with you about this today. We look forward to doing more like this, of course, and we want to help you take your stance.

[19:46] : Take your Stance for Health.